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		<title>By: dcbronco</title>
		<link>http://www.split-screen.com/2009/06/26/a-new-xbox-by-2010-and-unquestioned-speculation-now-with-questioning/comment-page-1/#comment-14185</link>
		<dc:creator>dcbronco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, here is the article.

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/sony-giving-up-on-cell-chip-rd/18498/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, here is the article.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/sony-giving-up-on-cell-chip-rd/18498/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/sony-giving-up-on-cell-chip-rd/18498/</a></p>
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		<title>By: dcbronco</title>
		<link>http://www.split-screen.com/2009/06/26/a-new-xbox-by-2010-and-unquestioned-speculation-now-with-questioning/comment-page-1/#comment-14184</link>
		<dc:creator>dcbronco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suntzu

Here is an article about Sony dropping Cell support. Toshiba plans to use it in televisions. They displayed a model that could produce 10 or 12 1080p TV signal at once. The plan to make it a consumer electronics chip to be used in many products. 

Sony&#039;s problem was not understanding the abilities of the Cell. They originally thought they wouldn&#039;t even need a graphics card. That&#039;s why they basically got an off the self card instead of one made to work with the Cell. It made the PS3 more expensive, along with Blu-ray, and in the process put Sony in a position where they have to pick and choose their projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suntzu</p>
<p>Here is an article about Sony dropping Cell support. Toshiba plans to use it in televisions. They displayed a model that could produce 10 or 12 1080p TV signal at once. The plan to make it a consumer electronics chip to be used in many products. </p>
<p>Sony&#8217;s problem was not understanding the abilities of the Cell. They originally thought they wouldn&#8217;t even need a graphics card. That&#8217;s why they basically got an off the self card instead of one made to work with the Cell. It made the PS3 more expensive, along with Blu-ray, and in the process put Sony in a position where they have to pick and choose their projects.</p>
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		<title>By: dcbronco</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcbronco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it was IBM that said Sony had dropped their support for the Cell. Sony has been rumored to be interested in Larabee. IBM and Toshiba have continued research on increasing the number of cores in the Cell. Sony decided to drop it. I would agree that it was in their best interest to continue to use it. They could have made changes based on what they had learned and it would have been better for them. They should have learned from Microsoft&#039;s mistake when dealing with IBM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it was IBM that said Sony had dropped their support for the Cell. Sony has been rumored to be interested in Larabee. IBM and Toshiba have continued research on increasing the number of cores in the Cell. Sony decided to drop it. I would agree that it was in their best interest to continue to use it. They could have made changes based on what they had learned and it would have been better for them. They should have learned from Microsoft&#8217;s mistake when dealing with IBM.</p>
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		<title>By: Suntzu420</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suntzu420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Continue to see people saying that Sony wants to get rid of the cell.  With the position that they are in they have to stay with it.  They are too heavily invested into it.  On top of that, if they toss the cell they have develop something new which may be even more difficult than the cell.  By staying with the cell, they can continue to improve upon the dev tools and possibly allow third party studios better support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Continue to see people saying that Sony wants to get rid of the cell.  With the position that they are in they have to stay with it.  They are too heavily invested into it.  On top of that, if they toss the cell they have develop something new which may be even more difficult than the cell.  By staying with the cell, they can continue to improve upon the dev tools and possibly allow third party studios better support.</p>
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		<title>By: dcbronco</title>
		<link>http://www.split-screen.com/2009/06/26/a-new-xbox-by-2010-and-unquestioned-speculation-now-with-questioning/comment-page-1/#comment-14085</link>
		<dc:creator>dcbronco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether console makers are ready for a new console is a good question. Sony has made it pretty clear they are not. I don&#039;t remember all of the 10 year lifespan when PS2 was selling a ton. At the same time they did start on the PS3 later than Microsoft started on the 360. 

But there were other motives for the current generation to start when it did. Microsoft was getting reamed by Nvidia and Intel(both are begging to work with MS again now). Again MS might be in a rush again. They would love to leave RRoD behind them. A redesign or a whole new console has to be on the way for that reason alone. Maybe both. MS is making money on 360 and there is no reason to drop it. But Sony is in financial trouble and it is in Microsoft&#039;s interest to press them. Bringing out a new console would make Sony bring out a new console to keep up. 

It would be cheap to bring out a new Xbox that is far more powerful than the PS3. Not allowing Sony to make money from gaming may make them re-evaluate whether or not they want to remain in the gaming business. Both companies could bring out consoles based on their current CPUs to keep cost down. Add RAM, better GPUs and bigger hard drives and you have vastly more powerful machines, without the major cost of a totally new machine. But I don&#039;t believe Sony wants to do it anyway. I believe they want to get away from the Cell processor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether console makers are ready for a new console is a good question. Sony has made it pretty clear they are not. I don&#8217;t remember all of the 10 year lifespan when PS2 was selling a ton. At the same time they did start on the PS3 later than Microsoft started on the 360. </p>
<p>But there were other motives for the current generation to start when it did. Microsoft was getting reamed by Nvidia and Intel(both are begging to work with MS again now). Again MS might be in a rush again. They would love to leave RRoD behind them. A redesign or a whole new console has to be on the way for that reason alone. Maybe both. MS is making money on 360 and there is no reason to drop it. But Sony is in financial trouble and it is in Microsoft&#8217;s interest to press them. Bringing out a new console would make Sony bring out a new console to keep up. </p>
<p>It would be cheap to bring out a new Xbox that is far more powerful than the PS3. Not allowing Sony to make money from gaming may make them re-evaluate whether or not they want to remain in the gaming business. Both companies could bring out consoles based on their current CPUs to keep cost down. Add RAM, better GPUs and bigger hard drives and you have vastly more powerful machines, without the major cost of a totally new machine. But I don&#8217;t believe Sony wants to do it anyway. I believe they want to get away from the Cell processor.</p>
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		<title>By: Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xbox 720 = Xbox 360 with built in Natal. = new machine

PS3 = PS3 (same machine) + wand
Wii = Wii + Motion Plus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xbox 720 = Xbox 360 with built in Natal. = new machine</p>
<p>PS3 = PS3 (same machine) + wand<br />
Wii = Wii + Motion Plus</p>
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