Comments on: Mass Effect Can’t go Multiplatform – Here’s Why http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/ gaming news, reviews, discussion, tutorials and humour Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:09:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ps3 rules http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-14218 ps3 rules Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:39:43 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-14218 you dumbshit ps3 fanboys quit whinning wishin you will get mass effect 2 becuz you wont its rights have been bought by microsoft a looonngg time ago stating that ME1 ME 2 ME 3 will all be xbox 360 exclusives however if microsoft wanted ME4 ME5 etc they wud hav to issue another contract but on the contrary there is no way that ps3 will be getting ME 1 or ME2 or ME 3 just impossible if you guys want it so bad which i can tell by u reading this article above then why not just buy an xbox 360? and besides porting ME by EA to the ps3 would be regretted by EA becuz they have alredy seen a big ass failure with the ps3 version of NFS undercover with all the frame rate issues and bugs there was alredy frame rate issues in ME1 so i doubt they wud even if somehow the contract was lifted you dumbshit ps3 fanboys quit whinning wishin you will get mass effect 2 becuz you wont its rights have been bought by microsoft a looonngg time ago stating that ME1 ME 2 ME 3 will all be xbox 360 exclusives however if microsoft wanted ME4 ME5 etc they wud hav to issue another contract

but on the contrary there is no way that ps3 will be getting ME 1 or ME2 or ME 3 just impossible

if you guys want it so bad which i can tell by u reading this article above then why not just buy an xbox 360?

and besides porting ME by EA to the ps3 would be regretted by EA becuz they have alredy seen a big ass failure with the ps3 version of NFS undercover with all the frame rate issues and bugs

there was alredy frame rate issues in ME1 so i doubt they wud even if somehow the contract was lifted

]]> By: Adam http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4755 Adam Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:27:24 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4755 Wow, look at all the PS3 fanboys squirm... Pathetic... Wow, look at all the PS3 fanboys squirm… Pathetic…

]]> By: Xbot http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4710 Xbot Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:34:01 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4710 LOL at xbox slaves like this guy stuck writing crap like this because they have no games for 2009 XD!!! LOL at xbox slaves like this guy stuck writing crap like this because they have no games for 2009 XD!!!

]]> By: Randall http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4563 Randall Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:47:23 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4563 This is the worst blog site ever. Serious Ravi Sinha you make no points you are just upset because e.a. is going to take away something from xbox. Please go do us all a favor and jump in front of a bus. Thank you and please stop blogging. This is the worst blog site ever. Serious Ravi Sinha you make no points you are just upset because e.a. is going to take away something from xbox. Please go do us all a favor and jump in front of a bus. Thank you and please stop blogging.

]]> By: megul http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4548 megul Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:23:16 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4548 lol bs article just saying whatever to get noticed lol bs article just saying whatever to get noticed

]]> By: David Macphail http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4547 David Macphail Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:54:39 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4547 Judging by the logic of your post - wouldn't it make sense for Bioware to release the game on the PS3 and 360 in all territories OUTSIDE of Japan??? Look at the western RPG's like Elder Scrolls: Oblivion and Fallout 3 - are you trying to convince us that not a single PS3 owner picked up either one of those games??? If western RPG's only sell well outside of Japan and JRPG's only sell well in Japan (Which isn't true - look at Final Fantasy, Pokemon) then Bioware have a simple solution. Release the game for both platforms but make sure to stay away from a Japaneese release, that way they can maximize profit in the west and dissolve any potential losses from competing with Japaneese RPG's in the east. This is just basic business! At this point in time i don't think Bioware can afford to make this game exclusively for the 360 - they need to make sure they reach the largest RPG audience possible and to do that they need to release the game on a proper RPG machine, as well as the 360 (That's right, i went there). The cost of releasing this game only for the 360 is far greater than the risk of releasing it as a multi - platform title. Judging by the logic of your post – wouldn’t it make sense for Bioware to release the game on the PS3 and 360 in all territories OUTSIDE of Japan???

Look at the western RPG’s like Elder Scrolls: Oblivion and Fallout 3 – are you trying to convince us that not a single PS3 owner picked up either one of those games???

If western RPG’s only sell well outside of Japan and JRPG’s only sell well in Japan (Which isn’t true – look at Final Fantasy, Pokemon) then Bioware have a simple solution. Release the game for both platforms but make sure to stay away from a Japaneese release, that way they can maximize profit in the west and dissolve any potential losses from competing with Japaneese RPG’s in the east.

This is just basic business! At this point in time i don’t think Bioware can afford to make this game exclusively for the 360 – they need to make sure they reach the largest RPG audience possible and to do that they need to release the game on a proper RPG machine, as well as the 360 (That’s right, i went there). The cost of releasing this game only for the 360 is far greater than the risk of releasing it as a multi – platform title.

]]> By: spriggers http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4546 spriggers Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:01:39 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4546 You conclude by saying "how many Bioware titles have made it to the PS3"... But how many games have Bioware released under EA? That's the biggest issue of this whole thing. You kind of shot yourself in the foot at the end there. And remember that this is EA. They don't care if the PS3 version is up to snuff. LOL I could see them giving PS3 fans ME1 when ME2 comes out. Then ME2 when ME3 comes out. You conclude by saying “how many Bioware titles have made it to the PS3″… But how many games have Bioware released under EA? That’s the biggest issue of this whole thing. You kind of shot yourself in the foot at the end there. And remember that this is EA. They don’t care if the PS3 version is up to snuff. LOL

I could see them giving PS3 fans ME1 when ME2 comes out. Then ME2 when ME3 comes out.

]]> By: Tom http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4545 Tom Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:00:18 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4545 I hope Mass Effect will coninue to be an xbox360 exclusive. I hope Mass Effect will coninue to be an xbox360 exclusive.

]]> By: Peter http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4541 Peter Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:39:36 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4541 Ahh, on the contrary... It is in fact totally dependant on ROI... Ahh, on the contrary… It is in fact totally dependant on ROI…

]]> By: Doveman http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4540 Doveman Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:16:06 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4540 A few points to this... First you are absolutely right about Bioware developing primarily for X360 and PC. Secondly the IP rights in question is actually quite and confussing tale.. EA hold the rights to the IP however M$ will publish any Mass Effect Titles brought out on the 360. EA will publish the PC version and PS3 version if there ever is one... this is more likely than many think. You say the issue is more than the return on investment, however I believe this is the biggest issue and one that I fear investors will soon make the wrong choice in. EA at current from what I gather are shopping around the game to other developers to do the port (i.e. like 2k marin did the bioshock port to PS3). It is just a matter of who wants to put their hand up, and if the rumours have started I'd say someone already has. Now hears the foreseable problem which I believe EA are blind to. Will the game sell on PS3? and my answer is yes but only if it is released at a budget price, which would be selling at a loss to EA. If EA release the franchise on PS3 at full retail price, I think it will get easily overlooked, because there is a good quality library of games available on the PS3 that the money for PS3 owners would easily be better spent elsewhere... (not saying Mass Effect is bad game here... just going of general consumer behavior and the tendency to buy something new) hence if the did release at full retail.... they would sell at a loss. So at the end its a lose lose situation that I think is blinding the eyes of the $ hungry EA investors. The only way it would work is if they did release the first at budget and released the second game simultaneosly with other platforms, you could make up the deficit.. but given the fact we haven't seen the port now for the first makes it highly unlikely will see the second on the PS3 the same time we see it on the 360 and PC If they forgot about porting the first and just developed the second for the PS3... no doubt would it fail... I mean, who in their right mind would pick up a book and start reading it from the middle. A few points to this… First you are absolutely right about Bioware developing primarily for X360 and PC.

Secondly the IP rights in question is actually quite and confussing tale..

EA hold the rights to the IP however M$ will publish any Mass Effect Titles brought out on the 360. EA will publish the PC version and PS3 version if there ever is one… this is more likely than many think.

You say the issue is more than the return on investment, however I believe this is the biggest issue and one that I fear investors will soon make the wrong choice in.

EA at current from what I gather are shopping around the game to other developers to do the port (i.e. like 2k marin did the bioshock port to PS3). It is just a matter of who wants to put their hand up, and if the rumours have started I’d say someone already has.

Now hears the foreseable problem which I believe EA are blind to. Will the game sell on PS3? and my answer is yes but only if it is released at a budget price, which would be selling at a loss to EA. If EA release the franchise on PS3 at full retail price, I think it will get easily overlooked, because there is a good quality library of games available on the PS3 that the money for PS3 owners would easily be better spent elsewhere… (not saying Mass Effect is bad game here… just going of general consumer behavior and the tendency to buy something new) hence if the did release at full retail…. they would sell at a loss. So at the end its a lose lose situation that I think is blinding the eyes of the $ hungry EA investors.

The only way it would work is if they did release the first at budget and released the second game simultaneosly with other platforms, you could make up the deficit.. but given the fact we haven’t seen the port now for the first makes it highly unlikely will see the second on the PS3 the same time we see it on the 360 and PC

If they forgot about porting the first and just developed the second for the PS3… no doubt would it fail… I mean, who in their right mind would pick up a book and start reading it from the middle.

]]> By: Samir http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4539 Samir Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:03:59 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4539 This article is poorly written. You're assuming that it would be a huge financial burden to port the Mass Effect engine to the PS3. Mass Effect wasn't released in Japan because Japan's gaming market is tiny compared to that of NA's and Europe's. Even if it was popular, it still wouldn't sell well. If Final Fantasy XIII was only released in Japan on both 360 and PS3, Square-Enix still wouldn't be able to cover their costs from that alone. But back to the multi-platform issue, as the Mass Effect engine gets older, Bioware will reach better economies with it, making it easier and easier to be developed for, and easier to port for that matter. You can't just rule out that it won't be ported. A lot of games that are multiplatform are developed for the 360 first, and then ported over. It works the other way around too, with the PS3 being the lead console and the game being ported to the 360. It's not too expensive for them to do. Think of all the games that came out as multiplatform last year. With the exception of a few, a lot of them didn't sell too well. However, these companies are somehow able to release multiplatform titles over and over again. Ever wonder why? (I'll give you a hint, since your article seems to refuse the notion - it's cheap for them to port games) Whoops I just gave you the answer. ... Ultimately, Mass Effect was published by Microsoft, so that's the only reason why it was exclusive. No other reason. I don't know the deal with Mass Effect 2, but it's complete fanboyism to say that the series will never come to the PS3 because it would be too expensive to port. This article is poorly written. You’re assuming that it would be a huge financial burden to port the Mass Effect engine to the PS3. Mass Effect wasn’t released in Japan because Japan’s gaming market is tiny compared to that of NA’s and Europe’s. Even if it was popular, it still wouldn’t sell well. If Final Fantasy XIII was only released in Japan on both 360 and PS3, Square-Enix still wouldn’t be able to cover their costs from that alone.
But back to the multi-platform issue, as the Mass Effect engine gets older, Bioware will reach better economies with it, making it easier and easier to be developed for, and easier to port for that matter. You can’t just rule out that it won’t be ported. A lot of games that are multiplatform are developed for the 360 first, and then ported over. It works the other way around too, with the PS3 being the lead console and the game being ported to the 360. It’s not too expensive for them to do. Think of all the games that came out as multiplatform last year. With the exception of a few, a lot of them didn’t sell too well. However, these companies are somehow able to release multiplatform titles over and over again. Ever wonder why? (I’ll give you a hint, since your article seems to refuse the notion – it’s cheap for them to port games)
Whoops I just gave you the answer.
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Ultimately, Mass Effect was published by Microsoft, so that’s the only reason why it was exclusive. No other reason. I don’t know the deal with Mass Effect 2, but it’s complete fanboyism to say that the series will never come to the PS3 because it would be too expensive to port.

]]> By: Kraven http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4538 Kraven Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:58:35 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4538 Ridiculous. Are you a 360 Fanboy? Stupid. Mass Effect now belong a EA. I need to say anything more? Ridiculous. Are you a 360 Fanboy? Stupid. Mass Effect now belong a EA. I need to say anything more?

]]> By: Wes http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4537 Wes Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:31:26 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4537 @D.O there was a FF for xbox does FF12 ring anybells?? And plus MS2 wont go multi platform as much as Killzone 2 or MGS 4 wont. Some developers just have loyalty to the company that made it all happen in the 1st place. And you guys forgot one little thing. Yes MS got ported but to what operating system?? OMG it was Windows!!!!! Just another Microsoft department. What are the odds?? And no offense PS3. We all know what happends to all the games that get ported to your Console. Framerate issues and some bugs that dont even exsist on the console where it was programmed on. Dont believe me?? Skate. Skate 2 Bio shock NFS undercover Enchanted arms Fallout 3 PS3 is truly a good system but stick to 1st party developers than relying on 3rd parties to give you a wider gaming selection the xbox sells 3:1 to the PS3 anyways. Facts Pathetic @D.O
there was a FF for xbox does FF12 ring anybells??

And plus MS2 wont go multi platform as much as Killzone 2 or MGS 4 wont.

Some developers just have loyalty to the company that made it all happen in the 1st place. And you guys forgot one little thing. Yes MS got ported but to what operating system?? OMG it was Windows!!!!! Just another Microsoft department. What are the odds??

And no offense PS3. We all know what happends to all the games that get ported to your Console. Framerate issues and some bugs that dont even exsist on the console where it was programmed on.

Dont believe me??
Skate.
Skate 2
Bio shock
NFS undercover
Enchanted arms
Fallout 3

PS3 is truly a good system but stick to 1st party developers than relying on 3rd parties to give you a wider gaming selection the xbox sells 3:1 to the PS3 anyways. Facts

Pathetic

]]> By: D.O. http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4536 D.O. Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:51:25 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4536 You’re absolutely right. However, RPGs like Knights of the Old "Republic and Jade Empire were on the Xbox but not PS2. Mass Effect was on 360 and not PS3 (and there isn’t much gap between the PS3’s release and Mass Effect’s; still no port). Before you say Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance, that was not developed by Bioware. They ported MDK2 to the PS2 but then, they also did the same for the Dreamcast (and we know what became of that). It may only be restricted to RPGs or simply a new strategy but there have been no other RPGs from Bioware on Sony’s PS2 and PS3 consoles." Yes but there have been no FF's on Xbox but there were on PS2 but now FF13 will hit, but respecting everyone's opinion I'll just keep quiet for I may say or may have already said something wrong. :) You’re absolutely right. However, RPGs like Knights of the Old “Republic and Jade Empire were on the Xbox but not PS2. Mass Effect was on 360 and not PS3 (and there isn’t much gap between the PS3’s release and Mass Effect’s; still no port). Before you say Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance, that was not developed by Bioware. They ported MDK2 to the PS2 but then, they also did the same for the Dreamcast (and we know what became of that). It may only be restricted to RPGs or simply a new strategy but there have been no other RPGs from Bioware on Sony’s PS2 and PS3 consoles.”

Yes but there have been no FF’s on Xbox but there were on PS2 but now FF13 will hit, but respecting everyone’s opinion I’ll just keep quiet for I may say or may have already said something wrong. :)

]]> By: Aggesan http://www.split-screen.com/2009/01/21/mass-effect-can%e2%80%99t-go-multiplatform-%e2%80%93-here%e2%80%99s-why/comment-page-1/#comment-4535 Aggesan Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:15:37 +0000 http://www.split-screen.com/?p=1585#comment-4535 @Ravi Sinha; "there isn’t much gap between the PS3’s release and Mass Effect’s; still no port" Yes, because MS has the rights for the first ME. You made some really bad conclusions in this article and I think it's time for you to accept that your boat is sinking. @Ravi Sinha;
“there isn’t much gap between the PS3’s release and Mass Effect’s; still no port”

Yes, because MS has the rights for the first ME. You made some really bad conclusions in this article and I think it’s time for you to accept that your boat is sinking.

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